Q: Interesting article you had on your webpage about the Jesus cult.
I would like to let you know that God, the one that created you and me, the one that created the skies, earth and everything in between, is only one God. He has no kids. Jesus was a messiah/prophet. I ask you to consider worshiping the lord God alone and not ascribe to him any partnership. The religion belongs to God alone. Do you think Moses, Noah, David, Solomon, Lot, Jacob, Joseph, Jonah, Abraham, Isaac, Ismail, Adam and the rest, do you think they worshiped Jesus or God? Of course they worshiped God.
Read your bible in its original language, or read the Quran.
A: On God, true. One Spirit, also True. One Flesh. One Blood. One People.
I do not believe in the Trinity doctrine, not at all. But, when the One God refers to Himself in the plural, as in the act of the creation account, then, perhaps we should consider the possibility that He is not acting alone. We cannot put our Creator in a Box. There is no box that can or will contain him, and still, men try to do that all the time. My God say that He has Seven Spirit, all united in One. There is only One YaHWeH, not many. One YaHWeH who created Adam and Eve. One YaHWeH who created Israel, from one man we know as Jacob. From the One come many and given a name to reflect that one becoming many. Israel.
If you look at the Creation account -- Genesis 1 -- you will see that it is in the plural, not singular wording -- "Let us make man in our image". Later we read about a singular God, with a name, YaHWeH. This single YaHWeH, made Adam and Eve, but this is all after mankind was created, after the creation of the world we call, Earth. In the creation account you will notice that the Earth and all that is in it is already in place, already created, even the account of creating humans, and all before the Garden is made. This Garden is in a particular place on the already created Earth. This special sanctuary is protected and apart from the rest of the earthly creation -- . We then read how YaHWeH, one of the us and one of the our, mentioned in the initial act of creation of mankind and restoration of the Earth from a previous Flood. The Earth is restored, a protected garden is planted, then a particular God, who identifies Himself as YaHWeH, after building the garden spot, makes a man out of the dirt and breaths life into this newly created man, one He made with His own hands, and places him into the Garden He created, apart from the rest of creation and apart from other humans that had been created previously. This, too, answers the question some have raised, about where Cain found a wife, and why He feared for his life if he were to leave the protection of the garden area.
I could give you all of the scriptural references for this, but I believe you are versed in the Bible and are most likely familiar with the references. If, however, you want the references, just for ease of study, just a few to consider -- along with a few more comments, of course.
(Gen 1:1) In the beginning GOD (Elohiym) created the heavens and the earth.
The word, GOD, in the original language is (Elohiym), is actually "plural" for GOD, or more accurately, GODS, in other words, meaning more than a single individual. Human is singular for you or me, while Humanity includes us all, all of One Blood, One people of this world.
(Gen 1:26) And God (Elohiym) said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:...
This plurality is seen in this very beginning of the creation of mankind. Let us make humanity in our image. And this was happening before the Garden, before Adam and Eve were created. A humanity, outside of the Garden. Then, One of the Gods engaged in the original creation of this Earth and all that is on it, stepped aside as the other, the One called YHWH, began putting together a special line or linage of man, we know as Adam.
(Gen 2:4) YaHWeH GOD (Elohiym) formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.(Gen 2:5) YaHWeH GOD (Elohiym) planted a garden eastward, in Eden, and there He put the man whom he had formed.
Adam and Eve were forced to leave the Garden because of their sin against YaHWeH. They still had the protection of YaHWeH, and lived in a protected area, but not in the Garden. We know this from the conversation YaHWeH had with Adam and Eve and Cain;
(Gen 3:23) Therefore YaHWeH GOD (Elohiym) sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from which he was taken. (YaHWeH GOD, is like saying Dan the Human -- Dan is me being part of Humanity)(Gen 3:24) So He drove out the man; and he placed Cherubs at the east of the garden of Eden, and the flame of a sword which turned every way, to guard the way to the tree of life.
No longer in the Garden but still in a protected area. Protected from what? Other people, as we read --
(Gen 4:13) Cain said to YaHWeH, "My punishment is greater than I can bear.(Gen 4:14) Behold, You have driven me out this day from the surface of the ground. I will be hidden from your face, and I will be a fugitive and a wanderer in the earth. It will happen that whoever finds me will kill me."(Gen 4:15) YaHWeH said to him, "Therefore whoever slays Cain, vengeance will be taken on him sevenfold." YaHWeH appointed a sign for Cain, lest any finding him should strike him.
YaHWeH does not deny that there are those other people, outside of His protection, that would or might kill Cain. What was the mark He put on Cain? That is anyone's guess, but it was something that kept the Heathens outside of the surrounding Garden area from killing Cain. My guess is that it would have been something making Cain to appear as something he was not, but to mankind he would be given the honor of being from a family of gods that lived in the higher up mountains under special protection. This, too, would explain how Cain, was able to build a city and how his cursed descendants were able to become the first big corporate developers of industry, metal works and makers of musical instruments.
(Gen 4:16) Cain went out from YaHWeH's presence, and lived in the land of Nod, east of Eden.(Gen 4:17) Cain knew his wife. She conceived, and gave birth to Enoch. He built a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
(Gen 4:22) Zillah also gave birth to Tubal Cain, the forger of every cutting instrument of brass and iron. Tubal Cain's sister was Naamah.
There is evidence for the existence of more than a singular being. There is the First, of course, One with out beginning or end, also identified as the Ancient of Days, in the book of Daniel. But, there is the other One, who is part of the Original One, the Word. When He Spoke things came into being. His Word, I believe, was the Other One. His Word, or Command would go out and create or make or do whatever was spoken. Just as your word is part of you in a most intimate way -- the other you, so to speak. At any rate, we see Elohim, the plural GOD creating everything we see on this Earth.
This is what I see and understand and share with you. If we are to listen to the accounts from Abraham, Moses and Jacob, they being the first, then why would we need the Koran? If all has been revealed through the first true prophets then, why the Koran? The Koran has many wise and true teachings, but of the right and true teachings there is nothing new from what has already been taught, so why the need for another book of wisdoms over 600 years, more like a 1,000 years after the fact? If we take the Koran to be over the books we identify with Abraham and Moses and Jacob, then we might as well accept the Book of Mormon, by Joseph Smith as sacred too, and if that book then also the Book of Miracles, written by another person who also recorded Angelic encounters.
These are just questions, of course, and we do not have to agree, but I do hope that what I have shared might give you some things to think about and to research for yourself. Like one of the Apostles said, as he saw believers turning to other writings and other wisdom (wisdoms, as in more than one) that what had already been delivered -- The Apostle gave this warning:
1Co 4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. (Some translations say, "...that which is already written")
One thing we can totally agree upon -- that YaHshua, was a Great Prophet and as such, we should listen to what He had to say and to what His Apostles had to say, after all, they came before the writings of Mohammad, or Joseph Smith. I am not sure if you are familiar with Mormonism, but its founder had a similar experience to that of Mohammad. For me, I would prefer listening to what was written before, what came first, otherwise, anyone could write scripture -- which is something some modern, self-proclaimed prophets say they can and are doing, like they are speaking for the Holy One, or Holy GOD.
All of that Said -- this is my Cofession --
As a New Covenant Believer, I accept and confess that YaHshua was more than a Prophet. I confess Him as the First Born of the Living God, whom He came to reveal -- the Father in Heaven. The Father of all, the originator of all. He has sent us His first born, from the flesh, His Son, YaHshua. The warning is that anyone who denies this is following in the steps of the Anti-Christ, those who would deny this are then friends of the enemy. To Abraham was delivered the Promise of the inheritance to com. Moses was given the promise of a coming Prophet great than he. The Prophets of Israel revealed the coming of a Savior (Isaiah 63) and we see the fulfillment of this coming Messiah in the life of YaHshua. The prophetic Word will prove, in the end of man's rule, who is true and who is not. The evil one will be revealed as our Savior returns to collect His brothers and sisters, born into the Kingdom of the Living God. From this, I cannot and will not deny or recant. In YaHshua, we can become ONE with Him and the Father -- read, Matthew 11:27, carefully. He is the fulfillment of the Prophetic words preserved for us by the priests and prophets of ancient Israel. All other writings are spoiled, using some truth to turn lies into a new truth that appeals to those headed for fire. This is no joke.
(1Jn 2:18) Little children, it is the last time: and as you have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
(1Jn 2:22) Who is a liar but he that denieth that YaHshua is the Christ (Anointed -- Messiah)? He is antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesses not that YaHshua the Anointed is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof you have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. (KJV with His Holy Name restored)
CJB -- Christian Jewish Bible, same verse:1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar at all, if not the person who denies that YaHshua is the Messiah? Such a person is an anti-Messiah - he is denying the Father and the Son. (Yeshua, corrected to YaHshua)
(2Jn 1:7) For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who don't confess that YaHshua the messiah came in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the Antithe messiah.
Those who deny the Son are themselves denying the Power of the ONE true God, denying Him the ability to create Himself. Can the sustainer of all the Universe be limited? This is just like those who believe they must fight for their God. Kill and murder, and torture for their God, because, apparently, their God is so weak He cannot fight for Himself or for His people. But, what about those Israelis who fought and killed as they took land away from the people of Canaan. So, what about those of Israel who were killing other nations? When you read the accounts of the Israelis invasion of Canaan, YaHWeH was directing them and the purging of those people was justified in that they had polluted the land of great value with their unlimited capacity for sin of every kind. Later, however, the people of Israel made a big mistake, they refused YaHWeH as their King -- 1 Sam 10:18-19 -- Big mistake. They have paid for this mistake several times over. They were warned what that rejection would men and here we are, nearly 4,000 years later and they still struggle to be the people of YaHWeH. This, however, does not justify the many other nations, surrounding them attacking them and seeking to destroy them. Read Ezekiel Chapter 35 and you will see what is to happen to nations and peoples who would take advantage of the people of Israel or seek to destroy them. Read it and hear what the Great God of Heaven says.
(Eze 35:10-11) Because you (all and any nations round about) have said, These two nations and these two countries shall be mine, and we will possess it; whereas (because) YaHWeH was there: therefore, as I live, says the Lord YaHWeH, I will do according to your anger, and according to your envy which you have shown out of your hatred against them (Israel); and I will make Myself known among them, when I shall judge you (Those seeking to destroy Israel).(Eze 35:12) You shall know that I, YaHWeH, have heard all your insults which you have spoken against the mountains of Israel, saying, "They are laid desolate, they are given us to devour".(Eze 35:13) You have magnified yourselves against Me with your mouth, and have multiplied your words against Me: I have heard it.(Eze 35:14) Thus says the Lord YaHWeH: When the whole earth rejoices, I will make you desolate.(Eze 35:15) As you did rejoice over the inheritance of the house of Israel, because it was desolate, so will I do to you: you shall be desolate, Mount Seir, and all Edom, even all of it; and they shall know that I am YaHWeH.
Who are the people of Edom the people of Mount Seir? Has the God of Heaven and Earth changed? Will He not do what He has done, to those who would dare seek to destroy His chosen people, Israel? The jealousy of nations around Israel will be their undoing. Those who celebrate over the things to befall Israel for its turn from YaHWeH, will themselves be made desolate for their crime, their plans and their evil talk against those of Israel, in the place YaHWeH has called His.
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