Angels in Propose Marriage?
Angels marrying the daughters of men?
by your servant, Dan L Baxley
What would you say if I, or someone else, were to tell you the Bible says “Angels of the Living God married human women"? First, before you answer, get the picture in your head, “Angels” of our Creator, beings that are made of spirit, not flesh, engaging in human marriage ceremonies? And then having sex with flesh and blood women? Imagine, angels taking wives as many as they choose for, and getting them pregnant -- how is that possible, can spirit beings have sex with the flesh? Where would such a thought come from? From the Bible, the teachers of this nonsense, say. Proven from God's own words, they say. And who is "they"? Just about every Evangelical preacher and teacher on the planet -- no, I am not kidding. This is a growing misuse and twisting of the Scriptures where you are asked to throw common sense out the window. This is a dangerous doctrine and needs to be exposed for what it is.
Let’s have a look at this doctrine and at the reason for this teaching. It is a twisting of the scriptures that is so blatant, so patently false it deserves to be set up as an example of Satan’s influence over certain teachers, preachers, and false prophets of the past and of today. That’s right; I am saying those teaching this false doctrine have themselves fallen under the influence of Satan himself, the master of Scripture twisting. Certain individuals, knowingly or unknowingly, teaching doctrines of devils. (1 Tim 4:1).
This false teaching can be used as an earmark for you -- helping to identify the wolves in sheep’s clothing (Mat 7:15). Certainly, there may be one here and there not realizing their error, mistakenly identifying the whisper in their ear concerning this matter and then letting their imagination run away with them. Certainly, there may be some preachers of the Word that have fallen in with the wrong crowd and have been influenced indirectly. These men, hopefully, will wake up, see their error, and repent of it, and apologize to those they have, by their own credentials, misled. In the meantime it is up to those of us seeing clearly to expose what needs to be exposed, to say what needs to be said in truth and in honor of His Holy Word – Is your Pastor teaching this nonsense?
"Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them" (Eph 5:11)
There is always the hope those truly searching the truth will realize the error when they see it. Do not be afraid to question your leaders, if that is what they are, and if they are true and honorable they will explain the truth to you but if they bully you and pressure you to sit down and shut up then it is up to you to take control of your own Spiritual life. Let our God be true and every man a liar and this includes me (Rom 3:4). Do not be afraid or intimidated by those claiming to be teachers and preachers of truth.
Now you know which side I and many others are on and where this page is headed. You think you already have the truth because great men of today teach this doctrine of devils as if it is true? Well, then, let's open our Bibles and our minds and find out.
This is a doctrine that is being taught by the lying spirits of old and is being passed down to the Christian community the world over as fact. But the Christians are not alone in this false teaching. This teaching is also given support by Jewish interpreters of the Torah (Tit 1:13-14, 2 Pet 1:16), in fact, one of the main sources for this false teaching is from the Jewish Sages, the Rabbis of old the Super Rabbis from the past having passed down this false idea angels have the ability to procreate. Do you see? If angels, fallen or otherwise, can procreate through human women then the miracle of our Lord's birth is nothing -- not a miracle at all -- do you see, do you see why this doctrine is so dangerous? It gives angels the power of our Creator and what YaHshua did, angels have been doing or able to do all along. This is why this doctrine is truly a doctrine of devils, a lie straight out of Satan’s book of wonders.
My friends, this teaching leads to other errors and misjudgments in the written word. But, most of all, this false teaching essentially calls our Messiah a liar (forgive me my Savior Yahshua for suggesting such a thing). Please read and consider -- not what I say or what someone else may say -- but listen to the Word, the written word, let it be your guide.
Let’s begin by looking at it together and consider what is being said, not what some “agent” of Satan wants it to say. First, let us go to the scripture used to promote this false teaching, this teaching of devils -- not my words (1 Tim 4:1).
(Genesis 6:1-4 ) And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD (YHWH) said, My spirit shall not always strive (struggle, live) with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Notice, these “sons of God” take wives, this suggests a formal process, not rape. In the ancient world taking a wife meant something, even as it does today. There are two important examples of the seriousness of this act of taking wives in regards to marriage and surrounding a man’s wife -- this was not taken lightly by the ancients.
Genesis 12:10 And there was a famine in the land: and Abram went down into Egypt to sojourn there; for the famine was grievous in the land. 11 And it came to pass, when he was come near to enter into Egypt, that he said unto Sarai his wife, Behold now, I know that you are a fair woman to look upon:
12-13 Therefore it shall come to pass, when the Egyptians shall see thee, that they shall say, This is his wife: and they will kill me, but they will save you alive. Say, I pray you, you are my sister: that it may be well with me for your sake; and my soul shall live because of thee.
14-16 And it came to pass, that, when Abram was come into Egypt, the Egyptians beheld the woman that she was very fair. The princes also of Pharaoh saw her, and commended her before Pharaoh: and the woman was taken into Pharaoh's house. And he entreated Abram well for her sake: and he had sheep, and oxen, and he asses, and menservants, and maidservants, and she asses, and camels.
17-20 And the LORD (YaHWeH) plagued Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because of Sarai Abram's wife. And Pharaoh called Abram, and said, What is this that you have done to me? Why did you not tell me that she was your wife? And Pharaoh commanded his men concerning him: and they sent him away, and his wife, and all that he had. KJV
Taking a wife is Serious Business
Notice, the man of “renown”, the Pharaoh of Egypt, not an angel, was in the habit of taking wives on a whim, from lowly men. Remember, the Egyptian royalty were considered “gods” and to take a wife not of their own blood would be considered the taking of wives from among common man – those not of the god family. Also, these verses demonstrate the high value placed on marriage. Yes, Abraham understood the quick solution to dissolving a marriage would be to kill off the spouse freeing the survivor to marry another, and this had been Abraham’s big fear. The “god King" of Egypt would have him killed in order to gain another wife from among men – “commoners” (men) outside of the “god” family. There is another example of the same seriousness marriage played among those of ancient times.
Genesis 20:1-2 And Abraham journeyed from thence toward the south country, and dwelled between Kadesh and Shur, and sojourned in Gerar. And Abraham said of Sarah his wife, She is my sister: and Abimelech king of Gerar sent, and took Sarah.
Apparently the lie Abraham told concerning his relationship with Sarah while in Egypt worked so well he and Sarah followed the same line of deception, all based on the fear Abraham, and apparently Sarah shared (read verse 5), of being killed in order to dissolve his marriage so that his wife could be claimed by another of high status. And this is not the end of it. Some years after Sarah and Abraham were deceased their son, Isaac and his wife Rebekah, fell into the same lie. They feared the men of “renown”, these god Kings, knowing their penchant for acquiring wives from among the general population. Any time one of these "god kings" saw a "fair woman" among the common people they had the habit of taking them for themselves. No one has ever claimed these human "god kings" were anything but human themselves.
Genesis 26:7 And the men of the place asked him (Isaac, son of Abraham) of his wife; and he said, She is my sister: for he feared to say, She is my wife; lest, said he, the men of the place should kill me for Rebekah; because she was fair to look upon. (Gen 6:2)
Here again we see how marriage is considered important, important enough that the only way seen possible to ended it was by the death of one of the parties – in this case, the husband. It seems divorce, forced or otherwise, was not an option -- "Until death do we part..." actually meant something, and Kings and Pharaohs were not above this solution. If someone of authority wanted another’s wife the solution would be simple enough – kill the husband. Abraham feared this when he entered the land of Egypt and while in the area of Gerar so did his son, Isaac, years later. One thing is consistent; it had been the habit of men, men of “renown”, kings and Pharaohs, those claiming to be descendant from the gods to take for themselves wives from among other men, or common men, those thought of lesser value, those not descendant from the gods, and they chose whomever they desired, the daughters of common men, the "fair" daughters of men.
This is not the end of it. Reread the Genesis account, notice that the same condition, or requirement these “sons of god” based the taking for themselves wives from among men – they saw “that the daughters of men were beautiful”. This is the same fear Abraham and Isaac held as they had wives of great beauty. Let’s look further into this teaching of treachery and deceit.
Genesis 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown
The Sons of God
Why are they called “sons of God” if they are not angel? Or, are they “angels”? Aren’t angels sons of God? First, if you are a Christian you above all should understand this. Christians call themselves children of God and understand the Messiah, YaHshua as the Son of God and that He is called the “first” of many. If YaHshua is the “first” and it is not disputed that He is literally the very Son of the Living God, then those “sons of God” referred to in Genesis 6 cannot be “literal” sons. Oh, but wait, don’t listen to me – let’s turn to the Word:
(1 Corinthians 15:20) But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.
(1 Corinthians 15:23) But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
(James 1:18) Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
(Revelation 14:4) These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
Those “sons of God” in Genesis 6 cannot be “angels” as “sons” or they would be the “firstfruits” but they are not. Still, there is another proof that cannot be ignored and as a believer of the Word should be the final word. What does the Messiah have to say concerning angels?
(Matthew 22:30) For in the resurrection they (resurrected believer) neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Did you get that? YaHshua’s words, and He should know -- “as the angels of God”. What is it about the angels? They do not marry! So, how is it the “sons of God” in Genesis are taking wives? It has to be that these “sons” are not angels but humans that are either claiming the title as “sons” or are of the same type of order as true believers are today and would see themselves as sons, or children of God (Acts 17:29, 1 Th 5:5, Mat 13:38, Jn 12:36, Romans 8:16-17). They are, quite possibly, as pointed out previously, “god Kings”. Many of the ancient societies, including the Roman Empire, saw their leaders, their Kings, as gods or “sons of god”.
Again, let us turn to the scriptures for this truth concerning the “sons of god”:
Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. (Strong’s #5043- children – “child, daughter, son”)
Romans 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waits for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Galatians 3:26 For you are all the children of God by faith in Christ YaHshua.
Hebrews 4:14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, YaHshua the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.
(1 John 4:15) Whosoever shall confess that YaHshua is the Son of God, God dwells in him, and he in God.
(1 John 5:13) These things have I written to you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may believe on the name of the Son of God. (Remembering that His name has been removed by men in favor of a different name is of deep concern for the seeker of truth -- they teach "another" and accept another in another, different name, see John 5:43)
(1 John 5:20) And we know that the Son of God is come, and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him that is true, and we are in Him that is true, even in His Son YaHshua the Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
(Hebrews 1:5) For unto which of the angels said He at any time, You are my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? (This verse should clinch it. Our Father in Heaven has never called any angel His son. This should also shut the mouths of those that would try and tell us YaHshua was once an angel, or that He was the angel Michael of the Old Testament)
Hebrews 1:13-14 But to which of the angels said He at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?
Spirits we know as “angels” are ministering spirits and are “sent forth” to do what? That’s right, to “minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation”, to the "sons and daughters of God, not angels. Does this sound like the “sons of god” we read about in Genesis 6? I do not need to go into all of the twists and turns the false teachers go into in order to convince you angels took human wives and had sex with them and from this spirit flesh union became grotesque giants. Common sense says I should be able to stop right here and with your knowledge, as a believer, you should already know all of this. We all have to start somewhere and if this is all new to you then it is a good thing you have come to this site to get your Spiritual antenna up and working. It is my hope to add to your ability to see through the sham of these false teachers – they even believe their own words and dreams, being deceived in their own minds and trying to convince you to see their false vision, which they truly believe, being deceived themselves. Perhaps, I pray, my writings will help in solidifying what you should already know to be true. I hope so. No need to stop now, however, as we are on a roll. Remember, the following is in my words, and as YaHshua said, "I judge no one, but if I do it is by the Word of my Father". We are fortunate to have the words by which to judge, words told to Him and His Apostles, words then written down for us. So, if we judge then let it be by the words delivered once for all, for of us -- HalleluYah
(2Ti 3:13) ...while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.
(Eph 4:14) Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
(Tit 1:10) For there are many rebellious people, mere talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision group. (Let us not forget, this doctrine of angels taking wives and having sex with women able to procreate come down to us from the Jewish Rabbis)
(Tit 1:10-11) For there are many rebellious people, mere talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision group. They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.
(1Ti 4:1) The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
It should be noted, at this point, that in order for a spirit to be called an “angel of god” and not a demon, or devil, it would have to be an orderly spirit, one in obedience to the Living God – to their Creator. Satan was once an angel, a mighty and beautiful angel, then he sinned, thinking to be equal to His Creator, even able to replace Him -- in this his form changed, likened unto a dragon, or dinosaur, maybe?
(Rev 12:9) And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. (Rev 20:2)
Still, Satan, is a spirit being, an evil spirit, a demon, a devil, a destroyer – hence, rebellious angels are not called angels but demons, they have been transformed from "angels of God", messengers of YaHWeH into "messengers of Satan", angels of Satan -- evil beings, evil spirits and as such would never be called “sons of god” as we read in Genesis 6, therefore the "sons of God" cannot mean HIS messengers, or His angels. We have already read verses giving good examples of believers being called "children of God" and even "sons of God", and a verse asking the question, "when did our Creator ever called an angel a son"? And the answer is, never. Yes, we are all familiar with Job, but it is not God, or YHWH, that is calling these angels "sons", no, it is the author of the book of Job. Let's take a quick look at the scripture the teachers of this false doctrine quote so often.
(Job 1:6-7) Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the YaHWeH, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD (YaHWeH) said to Satan, where have you come from? Then Satan answered YaHWeH, and said, From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down on it.
The NIV translates verse 6 -- "One day the angels came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them" So, the question stands, When did YaHWeH ever call an angel His son? According to Heb 1:5, never.
Some will insist this error is God approved and therefore true -- by their own wisdom they decide what God is or is not saying. From some translation we see, as with the NIV, they place "angel" in place of "sons of God" and for good reason, as we have already seen, YaHWeH has never called and "angel" His son.
(1Cor 3:19) For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. As it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness"
Yes, Revelation 12, verse 9 does refer to “angels” along with Satan, but notice, they are his angels, that is Satan's angels. Angels of God, as we have already read, are “ministering spirits” for the elect of God, for the 'children of God, literally for the "sons and daughters of God". Satan’s angels, Satan's messengers, would not fall into that category any longer -- Satan identified as a "devil" has his messengers, those rebel angels joining with him and also joining in his fall -- no longer called or deserving to be called, angels of YaHWeH, least of all "sons of God".
We have already covered the scriptures in clarifying the fact that the true “sons of God” are a type of firstfruits following the Messiah into eternity, He being the first of the first. So, the “sons of god” found in Genesis cannot be speaking of literal “sons”, like created angels.
Let's take a closer look at the writings of Job -- in his account he calls the angels “sons of god”, doesn’t he? This is a proof text the deceiver’s use, twisting the Word of the Living God. This is an easy one to dispute, but it is used over and over again by the false teachers to confuse and misguide the blind. What does Job really say?
(Job 1:6) Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD (YHWH), and Satan came also among them.
Okay, you are pretty smart, just what does this much quoted verse really say? That is correct, we see the term, “sons of god”, but from the previous examination it is understood that these are created spirits, “angels” of God, just as the NIV has it translated and with this truth in mind, what does this verse really say? “… and Satan came also among them”. Among whom? The angels -- do you see, Satan is not included as a member of these “sons of god”, these "angels" or "messengers of God" -- he came among them. It is only reasonable to assume that if Satan is mentioned apart from the “sons of god”, these "angels" then so would his demon spirits that followed him into the rebellion -- they would not be called "sons of God", but we have seen where these demons and devils are called Satan's angels. Not only that, but we have it in the “word”, demon angels are held in a place of darkness (Jude 6) and it would seem unlikely they would be allowed access to this meeting with the Creator. Why would Satan be allowed in? It seem that at the time of the writing of Job, Satan was not bound to this Earth as yet, this prison, not until YaHshua came and closed access off to him. These beings are cut off from the source of their Creation which would effectively place them in darkness. Revelation 12 tells us where this place of darkness is -- Earth. We see Satan cast to Earth after a battle with Michael and many angels with him. Our Messiah Himself states that He personally saw him, Satan, fall. When did this happen?
(Rev 12:10) Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: "Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of His Christ. For the accuser of our brothers, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.
Some have mistaken the last part of this verse too, failing to see it is in "past tense". Satan and his angels were "hurled down” to this earth, which is to them “hell”. We see this powerful spirit being, that used to be the accuser of our brothers before the Thorne continually, cast down, reserved for that day of judgment, along with his angels. Who are these brothers, as John says, “our brothers”? Christians assume it is they of whom the Apostle writes but I submit to you that it is literally his, John’s brothers, the people of Israel – past tense. If Satan has been cast down, as witnessed by our Savior, the accusations before our Heavenly Father by Satan had to have been before he was hurled to this Earth. His, Satan’s, movements are now restricted to Earth.
(Rev 12:12) Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short." (compared to eternity, his time is very short, indeed)
Tell me, if you know, why is the world in such a mess? Why do things seem to continue the same no matter who is our leader or kings? What spirit do you suppose is driving the madness we call the Middle East? Why are the Jews so hated by so many? And they kill God's people thinking they are doing Him a service. The day of reckoning is coming but for now we have to deal with Satan and his angels -- even to death, as have many of our brothers and sisters in the Christ.
Reading Revelation 12:9 and Luke 10:18 then putting two and two together we can be pretty sure this event occurred while YaHshua stood with His disciples on this dusty Earth. And it is from that moment on that Satan set out to kill the one threatening his very existence. YaHshua was not kidding as some seem to suggest. He meant what He said. He would be the last to bear false witness, it is not in Him to bear false witness and if He said He saw Satan fall, then He did.
YaHshua replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven". (Luke 10:18)
Sons and Angels
Job wrote of an account, revealed to him, that took place in Heaven, a meeting of the angels with their Creator, and Satan appeared among them, not yet bound to this earth. Perhaps some of his demon angels were with him, it does not say, but looking at Jude 6 we can safely say that these evil angels are limited in what they can and cannot do or where they can go. After the Messiah defeated him in the flesh, Satan himself is denied access to the gathering of the angels before the thrown of our Father.
Let’s take a deeper look at this term in Job, the “sons of God”:
Strong’s #1121 – sons – The definition is really long and can include many things and does not turn the “son’s of god” of Genesis into literal “sons”. But, in this definition it is never suggested to include anything of a rebellious nature. For those interested here is the full definition: bane - son
From H1129; a son (as a builder of the family name), in the widest sense (of literal and figurative relationship, including grandson, subject, nation, quality or condition, etc., (like H1, H251, etc.): - + afflicted, age, [Ahoh-] [Ammon-] [Hachmon-] [Lev-]ite, [anoint-]ed one, appointed to, (+) arrow, [Assyr-] [Babylon-] [Egypt-] [Grec-]ian, one born, bough, branch, breed, + (young) bullock, + (young) calf, X came up in, child, colt, X common, X corn, daughter, X of first, + firstborn, foal, + very fruitful, + postage, X in, + kid, + lamb, (+) man, meet, + mighty, + nephew, old, (+) people, + rebel, + robber, X servant born, X soldier, son, + spark, + steward, + stranger, X surely, them of, + tumultuous one, + valiant[-est], whelp, worthy, young (one), youth.
This definition covers a whole slew of applications, none of which pin this reference squarely on the term “angels”, but the application of many words used to describe bene (sons) could be applied to mean “messengers” as in "messengers of YaHWeH" – this could also be translated as, “servant”, or “servants of God”. We need to turn to the context of what is being said, especially when we know our Creator never called them, the angels "sons", so the context together with the words from His Apostles and from the Christ Himself telling us it is His angels and not literal "sons” but His messengers, or servants. Job's account was never meant to be some kind of revelation about the “messengers of God” as some are teaching. When looking at Genesis the false teachers try to tell us that the union between angels and women led to the women giving birth to children of “giant” proportions. I know, I know, it goes from the ridiculous to outright stupidity, but, let’s not judge, letting the word say what it says and judge this matter for us. In fact, the one prime individual, in modern history, responsible for this teaching being spread throughout the Christian community is Dr Scofield of the famed “Scofield Reference Bible”. The following is a quote from his reference work applied to the KJV:
A quote from 1967 edition of the Scofield Reference Bible, note 1 relating to Genesis 6:4: “Some hold that the “sons of God” were fallen angels “who kept not their first estate” (Jude 6-7, cp. “even as Sodom and Gomorrah”; 2 Pet. 2:4-9. Accordingly, this intrusion into the human sphere produced a race of wicked giants (Gen. 6:4-6).
While the Scofield note goes on to mention the objection of some to this interpretation, it is none-the-less never rejected and has led many, over the years, to accept this line of thinking. Some have seen the error of this, but for some strange reason refuse to give up on the idea that “angels" slept with flesh and blood women producing giant offspring. Seeing the problem of this idea that angels manifest themselves into flesh for this purpose, some others have proposed that these fallen angels possessed the flesh and blood males and vicariously had relations with women through their host males and somehow changed the host sperm so that the children spawned by this activity were of giant stature.
Update (2015): A new addition to this false teaching is gaining steam – that the Nephilim (giants) were actually space invader that were on earth in those days and after those day, using the same biblical wording. The prime reason for this change is coming about because they, the teachers of this falsehood, have come to see the context of Genesis 6 does not allow for how Dr. Scofield (deceased) and others have tried to read it, by saying these “giants” were the offspring of this elicit union. Seeing it clearly does not say that, these modern teachers have resorted to using the Hebrew term for “giants’ – the Nephilim, a term they have made into a name being much more provocative and then applying it to UFO visitors.
Ludicrous, I know but this is the very reason you need to get into the Word of God on your own as much as possible. Speculation and opinion is one thing, but we should all give way to the truth presented to us in the Word, the written word and not some ramblings of someone claiming our Father is talking to them. Beware of those saying, "I have dreamed a dream", or, "the Lord told me", or "spoke to me". There are those in the habit of writing their own scripture contrary to the Word delivered to us by the blood of YaHshua. Beware of those writing books about their adventures into Heaven or Hell; these are demented people with lying spirits. And it is sad to say those teaching this false doctrine about angels procreating themselves producing some horrible creatures that went out to rule the world in the form of some kind of grotesque giants is just so much Sci-Fi -- fiction. Nephilim, indeed, children of alien angel invaders, nonsense and from here it is not much of a leap from this kind of imaging to get caught up in UFO-ology.
Harper’s Bible Dictionary pulls no punches and states right out,"...the sons of God” in Genesis 6 are spiritual, supernatural beings...". Seeing is believing, as the saying goes: Page 981 – second paragraph – “In the first group is the enigmatic passage in Gen. 6:1-4, which gives an account of how the union of “the sons of God” with “the daughters of men” produced a race of “mighty men that were of old.” Here the expression clearly refers to divine beings, and male divine beings at that, given their union with human women.”
And some of you thought I was making this stuff up. Harper’s Bible Dictionary, a recognized leader in biblical studies, making a statement under the authority of their Bible Dictionary -- a statement that is totally not true, and they are not the only respected sources that do this -- the fog of religion is thick, indeed. It is a matter of circular thinking, someone of repute says something and is then quoted and around it goes from one to the other and it becomes a new fact. No one questions the originator, the respected scholar or Rabbi, all assuming it must be true -- everyone says, or repeats, this or that as a truth based on what someone with a reputation in the field has said. Without the proper back checking this can lead to many errors in what is said to be or what is accepted as a truth.
The main originators of this false teaching, as mentioned before is the old Jewish Rabbis, long dead, all opposed to YaHshua as Messiah. It serves their purpose to teach that demon angels of Satan are capable of procreating as this demeans the "virgin birth" of our Savior.
From what has already been discussed I hope you can clearly see through this deceptive teaching and understand why it is important to have a clear understanding on this. Harper’s Bible Dictionary and other works and teachers supporting this false view are in essence saying the Messiah is in error, or (Father forgive me) a liar.
(Mat 22:30) For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. (Mark 12:25)
(Gal 3:28) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
If you accept the false teaching leaving room, being a tolerant person, for the opposing view these “sons of God” were really angels having sex with human women then you are degrading the Birth of the Messiah and His sacrifice for us. Do you see it? Satan has had many years to cloud clear waters with murky half lies. He has helped misguide mankind into religions touching on the “mother and child” concept.
The birth of the Christ is devalued if angels, any angels can have sex. Not just sex only, but to MARRY flesh and blood women -- taking wives?. The greatest event in the history of mankind is made meaningless if this is something that can happen and something that was happening long before the promise of our Savior. That fact alone should tell you that this teaching is approaching blaspheme, and even, possibly, approaches the “unforgivable sin”. If fallen angels, including Satan himself, can have sex, cohabit, with flesh and blood women then the miraculous way by which our Savior came into being, into flesh, is not so miraculous after all, it has been going on for centuries and movies have been made too, so it must be true -- let's get real, please.
Not all Christians hold this view, but it is continuing to gain popularity among the Evangelicals as more and more of the Evangelical preachers and teachers present this view to their students. And it is not only the Christians that have this view. Certainly the comparisons can be found in the Greek mythologies as well as the religions of the Middle East. And we can see this within the Jewish Bible and translation notes in the Hebrew Study Bible. In fact, they, the Jewish story tellers, may be the origin of this false teaching in the first place. I will give you a quote from a Jewish Bible -- TANAKH, The Holy Scriptures, and The New JPS Translation According to the Traditional Hebrew Text”:
Genesis 6:1 When men began to increase on the earth and daughters were born to them, the divine beings saw how beautiful the daughter of men were and took wives from among those that pleased them.
As we have seen from earlier evidence the interpretation given to the “sons of God” is one of choice not a contextual fact. The Jewish scholars choose to render “sons of God” as “divine beings”, in Genesis 6. They, it must be admitted, do not have the authority of the New Testament to draw upon, because they do not accept it as part of their inspired Scripture, or writings. The Christians on the other hand do have this advantage and I believe I have demonstrated adequately from quoting certain New Testament quotes the truth of the matter.
It is a mistake to think that because we recognize the people of Israel/Jews as the people of YaHWeH, that they have the truth in Scripture and they should be our go to for Biblical truth, is just wrong, wrong and wrong -- they do not know more, in may ways they know less, being polluted by their other writings they revere as inspire, and spend a life time stuying. What writings would that be? The Babylonia Talmud and the Jerusalem Talmud, both full of fables and myths and teaching about a fictional Oral Torah. I do not have the time nor inclination to get into all of what these Talmudic writing cover. But, to use those writings as a source of truth is a big mistake, a really big mistake. Certainly the Word was given to them and they were to protect and respect it, and they have, but the Talmudic writings are not part of that responsibility.
The Hebrew Scriptures testify of their bad behavior and about their hard headed attitude as a people. While preserving the Word was to be their responsibility they fell short in this service many times. They had slipped in their duty to preserving the Hebrew word, long before our Messiah was born. The Hebrew Scriptures were being lost at least 100 years before the Messiah came, and if not for the Romans deciding these ancient Hebrew writings were worth saving we would not have them today -- believe it or not -- the people of Israel were not only losing the writings to a past gone, but were losing their language as well -- Make no mistake, Modern Hebrew is not the Hebrew the People spoke, and the language had faded so far from view that when out Messiah and Savior appeared the language of the people had become and Aramaic dialect, one of many Semitic languages. Even in the ancient Paleo Hebrew, only recently, in modern times, has come to be understood, was not an Original Lanuage, but coming out of the languages developed out of the Sumerian languages after the confounding of languages that took place as the Tower of Babel debacle. None of this is hidden information, ignored, but not hidden.
Of course it was never in our Creator's mind (if I can be so presumptuous) to allow His Words to be lost, so if the task is to fail with one people, then He will chose someone else to see to it. In this case and time in history the Romans had the power and combined with Egypt and Greece, they saw themselves as great protectors of the arts. With this attitude as world conguers, it was time to set aside the muscle and protect the intellect, as so they did. They set up a commission of Jewish scholars to translate what was being lost, the lost was to be translated into the scholarly language of the Greeks, a common language of commerce and communication between all of the various languages throughout the Empire. So, with a mixture of Greek and Roman Latin we have what the world calls the Septuagint, meaning the "Seventy" as this commission was supposedly compiled by 70 Jewish scholars, based in Alexandria, Egypt, to translate what was being lost -- from the Hebrew into the Greek. The ancient Hebrew was no longer spoken when YaHshua began His work -- apparently there were some writings in a Hebrew dialect, mostly sacred scrolls read at synagogue, but non of those scrolls at that time were in Paleo Hebrew. An interesting side to this, however, of those ancient scroll, most being lost to time, were discovered in the Qumran caves, called the Dead Sea scrolls, and in these scrolls the Name of our Creator were preserved, literally written in the Paleo Hebrew -- and amazing discovery, providing modern scholars with a look into how the Paleo Hebrew look and was used, because, the Four Letters of His Holy Name are the four base letters for that ancient language. What an amazing preservation, miraculous, really. Fragments of text written in the common Aramaic language suddenly appears His Name, only in Paleo characters. Here is a sample of what has been found -- His Name marked in the Paleo Hebrew, the Hebrew would have been familiar to Moses. It is interesting how His Name was being preserved even as the language changed.
The Jewish Rabbis have the hated Romans to thank for saving their Holy Scriptures and the fact is, nearly all of the Hebrew translations of today are based on the Septuagint. So, don't make the mistake of going to the Jewish scholars as the last word when it comes to doctrines. They, just like everyone else, rely on other translations and other sources for digging out the truth. Non of this is hidden, however, only overlooked or ignored.
Read the Old Testament and you will soon see there were only a few men and women that understood anything about the writings, outside of the civil codes of the first five book of Moses, among the Jews, and this is one reason those with a religious inclination, sourced and resourced the Talmudic writings. The preserved Scriptures, translated into the common languages witness against them and their fathers before them. Let me add right here -- the so called Orthodox Jew and Ultra Orthodox do not study the Scriptures as you might think. It is the words of the ancient Rabbis they listen to, the Jerusalem and the Babylonian Talmud, as previously mentioned, and it is in these writings that they see the Books of Moses having their origin, and that is a fact -- for them, the writings of Moses is a mere outline of what the Talmudic writing have to say. Make no mistake, we Christians have not done much better, but if it were not for the Gentile side of believers, the word, as we recognize them in the Old Testament, would never have gone out into the World -- well, of course we know that would not be the case as our Heavenly Father has a way of making things happen His way.
Following these Five books (The Torah), and then we have the Writings, and then the Prophets, combined we know this collection of writings as the Old Testament (Old Covenant) we, believers in YaHshua as the Anointed Savior, have the New Testament (New Covenant) with the Words of our Savior and His battle of words with the religious leaders of that day, the Pharisee, the Scribes, the Sadducee, and the Lawyers as He continually demonstrated they had lost their way in understanding what they claimed to cherish.
So, no, you cannot look to the Jewish Scholars for support, they are as much in the dark, maybe more so, than the general Christian population. Certainly you can glean some truth, but to rely on the Jewish Scholars as the final word is a mistake. It is the pagan influences inherited from the pagan converts that has been a stumbling block to Jews and Gentile Christians, alike. Just the same the protectors of the written Word has fallen away from the Israeli and Jewish side and the mantle has fallen around the shoulders of the Chrisitians.
Now that we have that little bit of understanding out of the way, let's procede.
Giants in Those Days?
To finish up I am going to go through the first few verses of Genesis 6 verse by verse and make real sense of it. You will see that it says what it says, and now that you understand that the use of the term, “sons of God” can only mean other human individuals with a title as “sons of God”, even as we are called today, then the rest falls right into place.
(Genesis 6:1-2) And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
True “angels of God” would not attempt to take flesh and blood women as wives -- each after its own kind -- angels of God are not of the human kind (1 Cor 15:30-40). Demons might desire to step over that boundary in their rebellion, if that were possible, but we see from scripture that is not possible -- only in the minds of men is such a thing possible.
(Genesis 6:3) And the LORD (YHWH) said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
“Strive” can also mean “live”. We are told that in the end-days our Father is going to pour out His Spirit upon all mankind. If we accept what the Messiah said about the end-days becoming as the days were in Noah’s time, then this verse may mean something more. The Spirit of the Creator was with men before the great Flood, but, as we see, they did not respond to this gift and guidance and became ever more violent, eventually the Spirit withdrew and human kind were exterminated, all save Noah and His family.
(Genesis 6:4) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Nowhere does this verse it say "giants" were the product of a union between the “sons of God” and daughters of men. “There were giants in the earth in those days.” What days? “Those days”, the days these events were happening there were giants present -- not one word about these giants being progeny of such an illicit union. Still, this verse is read by prominent men of faith completely different from what it says. They continue to go on and say these giants, the Nephilim, were the result of this demonic union.
Another thing to notice, it does not necessarily mean “giant men”, perhaps giant animals roaming the earth. This, of course, does not fit in with the false science of evolution, but there it is, "...giants on the earth in those days..." and not only that, even after those days there were these giant animals roaming about. The children from these unions of the Kings of God with women from the common man, not of Adams blood line (?) became men of renown. Remember, this is all before the worldwide flood that carried them all away.
Next, in an attempt at covering all the bases it is explained, the “children” of these unions became “Mighty men”, “men of renown”, in positions of power – were not the giants upon the earth -- but there were these "giants" in those days. The offspring became famous, in other words, these men of “renown” were operating during a time when there were giants of some sort present -- "in those days". The glorifying of fallen angels with the power to procreate is a type of angel worship but even in this camp they are divided on this issue of “giants” being physical monsters or merely giants in fame, still they hang on to the false teaching that this is the sin of the Angels.
It takes a twisted mind to make these "giants" out as offspring due to the union of fallen angels and fleshly women. Twisted minds twist scripture and to what purpose? This elevates the fallen -- the Devil and his fallen angels to a status unavailable to them. In the eyes of men they become more than they are, unable to create, only able to destroy. It must feed their twisted egos immensely to have men thinking and teaching this.
This false teaching downgrades the accomplishment of our Savior and of the plan of Salvation put in motion by our Heavenly Father. You only have to consult the myths of the ancients to find the idea of gods having sex with flesh and blood women then giving birth to bastard half-breeds, half god, half man is nothing new, but for the followers of the Christ to accept this false concept as fact is astonishing.
Men enjoy calling themselves "sons of god" or even "children of God", except for when it comes to Genesis 6, then these false teachers say they are angels -- absurd.
If you have a better take on this let me know. I will stand corrected and admit it if you can twist this verse in Genesis 6 to mean anything other than what I have presented here. Some pretty big names in Christendom will stand before you and tell you, "Angels left Heaven and took wives and had giant children by them". They are seriously out of their minds, physically as well as spiritually. Am I judging them? Not by my words, but by the Words of my Heavenly Father, by the Words of the Bible -- not my judgments but His. Too many want to put words in His mouth and are not afraid to do so.
There are Jewish commentaries that make the same assertion concerning fallen angels -- they should be ashamed of themselves for what they have done to the word of God. Never try to make the Word of God say anything other than what it says -- this is called keeping it in "context".
What About Jude?
But, you ask, didn't the fallen angels leave their first estate? Jude 1:6 says they did, doesn't it? Well, yes, and no. The teachers of this view love to quote this verse attempting to prove the fallen angels, demons, devils had left themselves (their spirit bodies). Let’s take a quick look and I'm sure you will see the same kind of faulty reasoning as with the false giants teaching, telling us these were children of these angels, you know, the angels that "kept not their first estate". Let's read:
(Jude 1:6) And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Okay, where does it say, the angels left their spirit bodies to cohabit with flesh and blood women? Right, it doesn't, it says these angels "kept not their first (get that - first) estate" -- they departed from their first habitation, or place assigned to them. What this is saying is they left a place they were living, a place given them and for some reason, probably having to do with Satan's rebellion, they abandoned their appointed place, their habitation and assaulted their Creator's domain.
We live on a beautiful planet all of our needs taken care of, but we dream of building space ships to blast off into places we have no business being -- sound familiar? Satan and his crew, like men, were not satisfied with being just angels, they wanted to be gods. We humans are instructed to care for the World and to be fruitful, but what do we humans dream of? We dream of the day we can travel the universe, to rise above and beyond the estate we have been given and for what? It seems we have a driving force pushing us to be like someone else. Satan's desire is not to be trapped on this planet so he passes his desire on to men, to rise above one's own domain. Funny thing is, our Creator has offered us just that, and the way He has made for us is the Key to Life, and YaHshua is that Key. Satan and his angels were not satisfied with their Creator's plan and tried to circumvent His plan with their own.
It is pretty simple if you believe the words and quite trying to twist the plain truth into something mysterious, even weird, but this does seem to excite the ears of some. These rebel angels are to suffer a bitter end bound in chains of darkness. Who can know how beautiful their "first estate" had been, their original habitation, their estate?
Dreamers of the flesh, like the rebel angels, carry their banner of deceit and falsehood pulling along as many as possible toward the fires of destruction, headed for complete annihilation. Read the whole of what is written in Jude and believe it, do not try to build myths out of something so simple to understand. Stop being confused on this. (Gal 5:10, 1 Cor 14:33).
Jude is all about the judgment of these "dreamers" making up stories like the writers of fiction and they do this for gain. A greedy bunch more interested in deception, working for a dollar and giving themselves over to a future punishment not unlike that suffered by those of Sodom and Gomorrah. (Titus 1:11, Mt 23:25, 2 Pet 2:3,14)
(2Pe 2:3) In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
They commit the sin of Balaam, working for money, as greed drives them, which is described as a form if idolatry. Balaam was a priest, and a priest of YHWH no less. He had the ear of YHWH, spoke with Him, communicated with Him, but still his heart was set on personal gain, not lowerly service (Numbers 22). These men, like Balaam, are put in the same boat as the "fallen angels" and their judgment is sure.
Keep in mind, the account given in Jude is about fallen men, by comparison, to fallen angels. So, if we are to jump to the wrong conclusion, that the fallen angels left themselves to cohabit with flesh and blood women, are we then, in the context of the whole of Jude, to assume these greedy men become spirit, as the rebel angels became flesh? Absolutely not, there is no such suggestion, and I say this only to demonstrate the idiotic suggestion that spirit beings, fallen or otherwise, do not marry, and do not cohabit with human women. Please, read all of Jude, its short, but think on it then reread it. It has a lot to say and much is missed when one jumps to the false conclusion concerning the fallen angels that Jude mentions as an example to emphasize the seriousness of our own destiny, and especially of those having made profit of God's people and of God's Word.
What about all of those pictures on You Tube showing bones of these Giant offspring? These are all hoaxes posted by hoaxers and liars, fakers, deceivers, etc. Go to the following for the rest of the story concerning this Hoax. National Geographic’s is the source --- http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/12/071214-giant-skeleton_2.html
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