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The Seven Thousand
(I Kings 19:18) Yet I have left Me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal (LORD), and every mouth which has not kissed him (Lord Baal).

(Rom 11:4)  And what was God's answer to him? "I have reserved for Myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal (LORD worship)."


It is interesting to note that a statue said to be of the Apostle Peter, in a sitting position, is kissed as an act of worship -- and kissing the Pope's ring (1 King 19:18 - Hos 13:2).
by Your servant Dan L Baxley

Looking for the Seven Thousand

Paul reports this very thing, pointing toward a "remnant", a few among the people of Israel, that even in his, Paul's day that fulfilled this very same responsibility of the 7,000 in Elijah's day -- if then, and if in Paul's day, so then in ours too -- there is a "remnant" among those claiming the God of the Holy Bible is their God, that have not bowed to the "Lord (Baal) worship" of today -- Baal means "Lord" -- Baal worship, then, is "Lord worship" -- or -- LORD worship, the Title/name in small caps that the translators have chosen to replace His Holy Name, YHWH.

The number today may be much larger than the 7,000 in EliJah's day and even in Paul's days, in a proportional sense but the fact remains and is -- The God of Israel chose a specific number whom He personally "reserved", from among the people that had not gone the way of the majority.  It is not something these few, by comparison, had done but by an action of awakening and reservation by the Action of the God of Israel, YaHWeH. And today this action is only possible through the proper recognition of our Savior through whom this knowledge of our selection comes, that is, revealed, or made known --

(Mat 11:27)  All things have been committed to Me by My Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him. NIV

The God of Israel made this knowledge of "reservation" known to EliYah and later Paul picked up on this revelation and expanded upon it.  This knowledge was easier to understand in the first century as our Lord's Name had not yet been changed.  Remember, the battle EliYaH had with the "Lord worshipers" (Baal worshipers) was over a NAME, an identification of the True God, YaH - YaHWeH and not Lord-Baal.  

Paul Says -- "..then at this present time..."

(Rom 11:4-5)."...I have reserved to Myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to Baal (the Lord). Even so then at this present time also  there is a remnant according to the election of grace". KJV

Let us not forget that Paul is the Aposltes to the Gentiles and this message he is delivering is going out to Roman Believers. The question has been raised that this is possible only referring to Israel.  So, Israel only?  What about Judah?  Apparently, if we are to take this revelation, first to EliYaH, from YaHWeH, then from Paul to us, I mean Israel, then what about Judah?  Paul is using the revelation to EliYaH, that he was not alone, as he thought, and so, Paul too, is leting believers in YaHshua know they are not alone either and in this revealing, something else is made known, and not to Israel only, but to all believers -- our Heavenly Father and our Savior, YaHshua, have at their will chosen from among the people that He calls His a certain number to preserved and protect and battle for His Holy Name.  How do we know this, then?  Read Revelation Chapter 3:8-9, and ask yourself, What is it the chosen of YaHshua are doing in opposition to those cclaiming to be people of God the Father and followers of YaHshua -- They refuse to deny His Holy Name.  

YaHWeH says to EliYaH -- The very same account Paul Quotes for us --

(1Ki 19:18) Yet I reserve seven thousand in Israel--all whose knees have not bowed down to Baal and all whose mouths have not kissed him." NIV  (Baal was the Zeus of the day, the Jupiter, the Dionisus, the Jesus of today)

More than 7,000?  Yes, now in this time, more than 7,000.  First off we are told that there will be 144,000 from all Israel, 12,000 from each tribe.  Again, a specific number, but as Gentiles, that is all non-Israelis the number is not known.  Of those who have come and gone the number is uncountable.  But rest assured, there is a number and all are Marked by His Holy Name -- Rev 7:3, 9:4, 14:1 & 3:12 -- As then so now.  

Are you the square peg trying to fit into the round hole (1 Peter 2:9; 1 Cor 3:16)?  Then you may be one of these few reserved by our Creator Himself, as one of the few called, set aside, having not bowed to the Zeus of the day.  Do you find yourself swimming around in the bowl of Christianity finding you cannnot justify yourself by the tradtions and customs of the Church?  Do you see the conflict with Scripture and the actions of Chirstians?  Then maybe it is time for you to come out of her.
If  it is evident to you that the "Jesus", professed by the Christians of today, is not the Messiah of the Scriptures? Not the Messiah of 30AD? (1 John 4:2-4; 1 John 2:22 -- seeing the deception in the teaching of "another" savior -- seeing that, YaHshua, is His Name and is nowhere close to the false name, Jesus (many pronounce as Hey Zeus)  -- seeing that the translators have stumbled over the true stone -- then you may very well be one of the 7,000.  See His birth Name is not Jesus

Hebrew Root Movement -- Opposing Christianity?

On the other hand are you caught up in a religion that is trying to restore the Old Covenant? Claiming to be something they are not?  Many do see the error of the Paganized Christian groups and plung into the Hebrew Roots Movement or the Messianic or the Sacred Names Movements in a futile effort to do what is right.  Some try to live like Jews or see themselves as the New Israel and still others even teach they are physical descendants of Israel, the Lost Ten Tribes -- all in vain efforts to be something they are not.  Be careful as you look to fit in (Revelation 3:9, from these run, don’t walk).

Do you feel you have become entangled with group oppression, all in the name of god? (Ephesians 5:11; 2 John 10-11; 2 Cor 11:13, Yes, Satan has servants whom he inspires -- the coming of the Ultimate Servant of Satan Rev 13:2 )

Do you seem to understand things in the scripture that separate you from others? (2 Cor 11:4-- , again remember, His name is not Jesus, but Yahshua, now read this again That knowledge of truth alone will cause then to shun you, Romans 10:13. Taught by God our Father, John 6:45; Ephesians 6:12)

Do you find yourself biting your tongue when around others for fear of causing division, or worse still, to be asked to leave? (maybe you should leave? 1 Cor 15:33)
Do your questions to your pastor only cause arguments or belittlement? (2 Peter 2:2-4)

Do you feel alone in this world of confused religions and obvious false doctrines? Does it seem like your Bible is saying something different from what the preacher is saying? (Matt 24:4, 1 Cor 3:19)
Do you feel that maybe you do not belong? Are you intimidated into silence? (1 John 1:2-4, never mind, your fellowship is with the Apostles through their written words and especially with God our Father and Yahshua, His son -- you are not alone, all united by His Holy Spirit -- Matthew 11:27)
Have the leaders of your church set you against your family? Or have they set your family against you? Do they practice authority over all? Scripture, our real authority?  Or do they teach that the Father God is over the Christ and the Christ is over the man and man over the woman and if so then just where does it say the pastor is over the woman, over the children, over you (Eph 5:22-24)?
There has been an abundance of misuse in this area, all derived from words addressed to the Apostles and later taken by common men thinking themselves something they are not and taking on the authority given to the original Apostles. The Head of your house is you and you are subject to the Messiah. You, as the man, have a responsibility to be gentle and patient, yourself a servant to the wife -- that's right, a servant -- if one is to lead one must become a servant - Mat 20:25-27. She is not your slave, but because of her weakness (remember it was she that was deceived) you, as the head, are to be tolerant and patient toward her. To lead, you become the servant. Blessed is the man with a God fearing wife that understands this, and is able to see the true strength in her husband, for his mercy toward her is the mercy we find in YaHshua and our Heavenly Father toward us. Amen
Do you feel uncomfortable engaging discussions about the creation, about our Creator, being met with stony silence or angry remarks?

If you can answer, "Yes", to any of the questions above perhaps this web site is for you. Perhaps you are – one of the Seven Thousand? The Main point being, however, not mistreatment so much as worshiping the god, calling on and bowing to the wrong god and messiah.  Our Savior came in a Name, and it is a Name we are to confess with our own lips and to bow to no other.  He was born YaHshua, and there is no other name found among men by which we must be saved -- Acts 4:12

Number One Principle "Let the Father be true and every man a liar" (Romans 3:4)

With that in mind let us proceed --

Who are the Seven Thousand?
That would be the number of those found not to have given themselves to the popular religion of their day. Biblically speaking, the original seven thousand lived during the days of Elijah (Eli-YaH). Elijah, at one point in his ministry, thought he was alone, the only one worshiping the true Creator. He, however, was reminded by YHWH, God of back sliding Israel, that he was not alone. There were "seven thousand" that had not bowed to the popular religion of the day and had not kissed (joined hands with this false religion and its priests) Baal. Baal, in the days of Elijah and the Seven Thousand, was the "Lord" worship of that day. Kissing the idol of one of the Baals demonstrated an intimate acceptance of this false worship. Kissing can be likened to a handshake of today sealing an agreement. Westerners and Europeans may sign an agreement then shake hands all around sealing the signed agreement. Even today some in other countries greet and seal agreements with a kiss. It is not uncommon in this modern era to see religious people kissing their idols whether they be square prayer boxes, holy stones, holy pictures, holy crosses, holy men, and even stone statues.

In Rome there is a statue of Peter, or so they say, and the big toe on this venerated piece of stone - cut into the shape of a man - has virtually been "kissed" off. Once a year the Pope himself places his robe and crown upon this stone idol and bows before it and kisses its foot. The Seven Thousand would not be a party to such things, not in the days of Elijah and not now in these days. Who are the Seven Thousand? It is those that worship the true God in Heaven, in truth and in spirit – and acknowledge Yahshua as Messiah and Savior.  An guess what?  The Roman Catholic Church murdered tens of thousands of our brothers and sisters.

First the Roman Empire, under the Caesars, murdered Christians for their beliefs for nearly 300 years, but it has been the Roman Catholic Church that has murdered believers not of thier baptism for the past 1,500 years, up until Napoleon removed the power of the Pope, making him a virtual captive and limiting the power to the Vatican grounds making it wht smallest country/state in the world, covering about 25 acres (?), and the Pope has never had the power over life and death, over the Kings of the Earth since -- still -- great influence and as the world forgets about the crimes of the Roman Chruch that influence continues to grow.  Make no mistake, history is the witness against this Whore of Babylon as she, under the authority of the Popes, launched crusades against innocent people like the Antibaptists (those not agreeing to child baptism, or sprinkling), the Albigenses, Waldenses and many other lesser known individuals and groups, killing off whole towns and villiages of people not agree with the Roman Catholic Church or refusing her confession.  Of course everyone has heard of the Spanish inquisitions, but that is only a part of the history of the Roman Church drinking in the blood of true saints.  Like the Woman on the Beast in Revelation chapter 17, drunk on the blood of the saints, so is the Roman Church without apology or repentance, the same today as yesterday and if given the chance to rule over kings, presidents, and prime ministers again, if unleashed, allowed out of her box, she will again torture and murder the innocent -- all of those who will not confess the unholy Name she confess and demands you confess.  Make no mistake, the Roman Catholic Religious Powers are orchestrating a come back and we can see this in her bid to accept into her fold all relgions.  The Late Pope John began this newest of crusades by allowing pagan religions to meet in a Roman Catholic Conference and come before sitting Pope and perform their magical acts of pagan worship, all under the banner that We are all Worshiping the Same God, just in Different Ways.   Of course, this is recognition by these other pagan religions that the Pope is supreme.  And Pope Francis has picked up where Pope John left off.  I sometimes wonder if Pope (retired) Benedict could not bring himself to go along with this path of open paganism and so he retired.  Maybe not, after all, the Roman Church has enough built in paganism to check off all the boxes for a Church built on the foundations of Nimrod and Semirams, the Whore of Babylon, also depicted in the Book of Revelaiton, chapter 17, verse 5 (Rev 17:5).   Wait, in case you don't want to bother opening your own bible --
(Rev 17:4-6)  And the Woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a Name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.  And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of YaHshua: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Mother of Harlots -- she has daughters, and who are those but they that came out of her, out in the times of the Protesting against the power of the Pope, those called the Protestant Churches, and they all kept her teachings, like daughter against the mother in a fight over authority, not doctrine, not the paganism they all accept and all calling on a name our Lord and Savior was Never Named.  

When we look at the history of the Reformation, that great religious break from the Roman Church and the Pope's authority we find her "daughters", practicing similar, the same, customs and traditions.  Free from the shackles of Rome, yes, but in another way the same, and using the doctrine of paganism to shackle believers who would otherwise come to the True Savior and call on and be baptized into the Name of the True Savior, YaHshua, but instead, these pagan leaders in disguise take captive the innocent and kill either the flesh or the spirit, those that should belong to Him, to YaHshua.  Many Protestant Bishops enforced their positions over the people by force as well, even, at times, under the penalty of death.  The struggle of the saints has always been the same; by not conforming to the doctrine of those usurping the Throne of our King and Savior, and for this, many have been destroyed, burned at the stake, hung, tortured into a confession not their own.  The angels of Heaven and our Heavenly Father and our Savior know who these people are and a reward awaits them.

"Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven." (Mt 5:10)


Elijah thought he was alone (I Kings 19:14) but he was not. The mighty YHWH corrected him (I Kings 19:18). The people of YHWH were, in the days of Elijah, concentrated in the land of Israel while today, the people of the Almighty Living God, are like "salt" sprinkled out over the face of the whole earth (Matthew 5:13). We should not forget, our Savior told us in advance that the end days would be as the end days of Noah. Many point to His, our Messiah, saying, "they married and were giving in marriage", as a proof everything was NORMAL, but this is far from the point. How had the days of Noah been? There were around 120 years of people "marrying and giving in marriage", of 'buying and selling" -- 120 years, and how did it end? Only 8 survived the end of days at that time, ONLY 8 people out of millions. Yes, as in the days of Elijah, also, we are looking for a "remnant", that would be a few not a majority.

EliYaH, means, "My God is YaH". If Elijah did not know about the "seven thousand" souls back then, what about today? As the world is even closer to the coming of our Savior, YaHshua, how many have not bowed to another god? How many today remain true to the worship of the one Savior, the one who came and revealed the Father and have not bowed to any other god or gods? Today there may be many more than a mere seven thousand, then again maybe not (Luke 8:18), but we should realize the people of the Living God are hidden in a much larger area today - all of the earth. Think for a minute – Elijah did not know the 7,000 believers -- he thought He was the only one. YaHWeH reveals to him that there are 7,000 others. Considering the overall population of Israel the number 7,000 may be a much larger number on a per capita basis than we have today.

The emphasis is not on the number or a numbers but that the Creator God has decided that during every age, every generation there will always be those that do not bow to the religions of this world and this is His doing, not mine, not yours, not anyone but Him. Elijah thought he was alone just like many of you may think or feel but you are not. You are there and I am here, that is two, and I know of a couple of others also. Remain where you are, you are there for a reason, if, however, you are being persecuted then flee to another city (Matthew 10:23). When you pray -- you pray for all of us and we for you. The unity in the body of the Messiah is not as the world sees it but as the Spirit sees and knows it.

1 John 2:26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Ephesians 4:15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into Him who is the Head, that is Christ (the anointed). From Him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work" NIV

Our part in the Body of the Christ is not with some group of flesh and blood. Our central teacher is our Father in heaven and His Son, Yahshua. They are Spirit, they are Holy and this makes them the Holy Spirit.
It is lost revenues for the fleshly churches to teach this singular truth of individual unity in the living, Spiritual Body, of the Messiah.

(Rom 12:4-7) For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teach, on teaching; KJV 1Cor 10:17; 1Cor 12:12-13; 12:20; Eph 2:13;

(Please read these verses, above, leaving out the "grayed" words, as these words were added by the translators to try and make sense, as they saw it, in their own bias. Read without these words and these verses make even more sense and the truth in them is revealed)

(Eph 2:18) For through Him we both have access by One Spirit unto the Father.

1 Peter 2:4 As you come to Him, the living Stone – rejected by men but chosen by God (The Father) and precious to Him – you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Yahshua the Christ.

This house, this spiritual house, is not of any fleshly group, but of those belonging to that spiritual Body of the Messiah -- that body as compared to a building of stones, as our Messiah and Savior is the Corner Stone.

Certainly it is not wrong to meet with brothers and sisters of like beliefs, but when the burden placed on the individual to comply with a group mentality that is contrary to what you see and understand in the Bible, perhaps it is time for you to reexamine this group. You should, in the fullness of love, be able to live at peace with all people but there are those that will not let this happen, especially as you, being personally taught by the Father and the Son will fall under suspicious scrutiny by those in authority. It seems that the closer someone actually approaches the truth -- striping away much of the fleshly desire -- the leadership feels more and more threatened. Don’t take this personally if this happens to you, as it is not you they are against, even rejecting, but it is the Christ in you -- not unlike the Messiah Himself when he confronted the religious leaders of His day -- they were afraid of Him and His message -- they could sense they had no power over Him.

Remember the questions that began this article – if you are fortunate enough not to have any of those problems of abuse within the organization or group you are joined with, you are most fortunate indeed. I pray this is the case as you will be able to share the truth of Yahshua’s teachings with others and may even be the tool by which others will be pulled out of the way of Babylon and its pagan practices and doctrines as taught by most of the Christian community.

Then again, perhaps you are one as in Elijah’s day, part of the invisible, spiritual Body of the Messiah.
Are you one of the Seven Thousand? I hope so and in that hope we will all meet at the coming of our Lord and Master YaHshua, not some other Baal or Lord, but the one true Master of all. I pray you find this site a blessing and an encouragement. Hallelu-YaH

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